No, there are no plans as of now for a “Grayson” TV show. But since Pat and I are huge fans of the series, we outline what we would want in case it ever happens. Which it won’t, but we’re dreamers OK?
Itho: So, here’s my thing; I love Nightwing. As a character and a concept. A Nightwing TV show COULD be boss, if done well. Here’s my other thing; comic adaptations are sooooo farrrr behind. Like, everything starts at square 1 which is from 40-50 years ago in comics. It’s why we won’t see “Court of Owls” in film for at least 10 more years. So when I heard TNT might do a Nightwing TV show, I immediately thought a show on DC’s relatively new series “Grayson” would be much better for the network.
Pat: I’d love a well done Grayson TV show as it’s the most interesting interpretation of the character since Morrison’s Batman & Robin. That said let me ask you right from jump: Batman or no Batman?
Itho: On the one hand, Batman does appear in the comic and is the impetus for Dick being a secret agent. On the other, we’ve seen how teasing Batman has worked on Gotham; which is not very well. I was going to say No, but with the necessity for flashbacks and all I’ll say Yes to Batman.
Pat: Interesting, I think that’s the elephant in the room when doing any story that’s Dick Grayson related outside of the context of Batmam continuity. Like as a character he could theoretically work without Batman but on the other hand it’s never been attempted and if you wanted to do something similar but outside of that context why not just make up a new idea altogether?
Itho: I’ve “seen” Nightwing before meeting Batman in a fanfilm; its interesting but due to restrictions it wasn’t really justified. I agree, without Batman I think you’re better off making up a new idea. If you want to show flashbacks to Dick’s childhood, his time as a crime-fighter, and before he joined Spyral; you need Batman. And, in my mind no movie or show has really captured the dynamic duo together since “The Batman”.
Pat: Yes at the same time this has to be a show about Dick Grayson in Spyral which means you have to assume the audience understands his backstory & what the new status quo is which is fine as “mysterious circumstances” tends to be a major element of most new TV dramas. A couple nights ago I saw the movie Lucy for the first time and whoa that was amazing. Now that got me thinking for a show runner why not have Luc Beson? That guy has spent his entire career doing international espionage films & he has a whole staple of film makers that he’s worked with on hits like Taken, Columbiana, The Transporter ect so the guy has the resume and he made The Professional which is like one of the greatest movies ever created.
Itho: I’m not sure how well the general audience knows Dick Grayson past Robin (if even that) but I take your point that the show can’t lay out every little thing. I’ve only seen Taken and The Transporter (which is now a show on TNT oddly enough), but I’ll say Ok to Beson. What about main actors? I’ve got 3 for Dick Grayson;
Milo Ventimiglia (Peter Peterally from “Heroes”),Matt Bomer, or Sam Witwer.
Britne Oldford as Helena Bertinalli,
and Robert Knepper as Mr.Minos, the head of Spyral. Thoughts on them?
Pat: I literally didn’t know any of these actors but based on some very basic google searching I like Milo for Grayson and everybody else you mentioned.
Itho: So we’ve agreed on Showrunner, actors (except for Batman [!]); what about format? Monster/Mission of the week, or long form character arcs? The book itself is only about 4 issues in and we have only an inkling of how THAT works, but it seems like one-and-dones mostly.
Pat: Yeah def keep the one and done format and just run with it balls out. That’s partially why I like Luc Beson is because in his films, no matter if he’s directing, writing or producing, always take place within an international setting and I’d love to see that in Grayson. One episode in Rome and then the next in Capetown. The monster of the week stuff has been great for the comic and I think a sci-fi/crime/espionage mashup would be awesome (again I love Lucy) Something with a similar premise to the Futures End issue would be great on TV. More importantly have the done in one but then add little things that all connect that tie the entire season or show together. That way you reward repeat viewings.
Itho; Sorry, I saw “I Love Lucy” and had to regain my composure…
Itho: Yeah, C-list all the way. I love how “Arrow” is using Ted Grant (Wildcat) and Ray Palmer (The Atom). This plays into DC’s strengths of having such a huge backlog of characters. I noticed that list of characters is non-powered, no superpowers in Grayson’s TV world?
Itho: Well, 1) It’s TNT (which is funny because ‘TNT KNOWS DRAMA’), and 2)They want to cash in on those kids that watched “Teen Titans” and grew up. I mean there was a ‘Titans’ comic that I stopped reading because it was 6 twenty-something’s not being teenagers or funny, but the concept is there. But yes, that is what TNT wants to do. Nightwing, Starfire, (and Cyborg, Beast Boy and Raven I’m assuming) not being teenagers and being a team. Which is why I would much much rather have a Grayson show. If you think about it; “Blackhawks”, “Vigilante”, or old school Sandman would work better on that network than straight up B-list superheroes.
Itho: Y’know, in ‘Titans’ there’s a scene where Dick and Kory hook up (long story, mind-control) and Dick admits there’s no future of them together. I’ve never settled on a major love interest for Dick Grayson, it always depends on which version I’m seeing. “Teen Titans” cartoon? Starfire. 70s comics? Barbara Gordon. I feel like he and Bruce are alike in this respect, only Dick makes the effort to try before it fails. Starfire in Grayson has potential, in that they can’t do it in the comics right now. Like, not until another reboot. It could make for some fun tension between Dick and Helena, as well as someone Dick could talk to when he’s in the states and needs a favor. Alien ex-girlfriend would definitely push the type of characters that could be on the show.
Itho: Yep, a budget, time-slot, and any chance in hell of this show happening. I think we just spring boarded the best comic book show to never happen.